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Southern 100 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Hi all,

I'm one of those 'lurkers' who enjoys reading the threads and generally having a laugh at the witty bits (of which there are loads) and sympathising with the sad posts, of which there have been too many already this year.

I don't normally get the time (or nerve) to post much anywhere but I was reading the IOMTT.com site this morning and came on this piece http://www.iomtt.com/News/2008/08/08/Meeting-called-to-discuss-future-of-TT-racing-at-Billown.aspx which looked a bit worrying so I thought it might be worth letting you all see it.

I'm hoping that the meeting is purely about admin. stuff like who is going to be responsible for the running of the races next year but with all the talk of litigation in the air over the accidents at Billown and the accident in the Senior last year you do get a little paranoid.

Hope to maybe speak to some of you soon.

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Re:Southern 100 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
not sure if this has anything to so with it but....


RACE organisers could be facing claims over two horrific accidents that took place on the TT course and the Billown circuit within 24 hours of each other last year.
The widow of Marc Ramsbotham says she is considering taking legal action over the horrific crash at the 26th Milestone during the 2007 Senior Race which claimed the life of her husband and two spectators.

And a father is fighting for compensation more than a year after he was badly injured while watching the post-TT racing on the Billown circuit.

Coroner Michael Moyle launched a stinging attack on 'wholesale failings' of TT race management and safety at the inquest into the deaths of Norfolk road racer Mr Ramsbotham, 34, and spectators Dean Jacob, 33, and Gregory John Kenzig, 52.

Now Mrs Ramsbotham's widow Sarah said she had approached a solicitor over the possibility of taking legal action.

But speaking from her home in Wymondham, she insisted: 'I am thinking about it but I have not decided anything yet. I'm take legal advice and I'm looking at what the options are.'

In a separate move, a spectator badly injured at the Steam Packet race on the Billown circuit, the day after the 26th Milestone tragedy, says he is seeking compensation from the race organisers.

Andy Green, 42, of Findern, in Derbyshire, was a spectator at Cross Four Ways when competitor Carl Roberts hit a kerb and ploughed into him in the first race of the day.

The force of the accident was so great that Mr Green's leg snapped above the ankle, leaving bones protruding from his skin.

He had to be airlifted to Noble's Hospital and was then transferred by air ambulance to Derbyshire Royal Infirmary where he spent the next eight to nine weeks.

He had to have a metal brace fitted to his leg and was unable to return to work for seven months.

'I was standing by the burger van videoing the racing when this bike flew towards us at high speed and crashed straight into my leg. It broke my tibia and fibia, smashed my ankle and dislocated my little finger,' he said.

'I can't begin to explain the pain but the bones in my left leg came out of the skin and stuck into the ground.'

Next month, more than a year after the accident happened, he will return to the hospital in Derby to have his leg broken again and re-set.

Following the accident, Mr Green contacted a local solicitor to help with a claim for compensation.

But he subsequently learned that 'no win, no fee' compensation claims are not recognised in the Isle of Man and he is now in contact with an Island advocate.

Three other spectators together with the rider had to be airlifted to Noble's following the accident but maintenance engineer Mr Green said it was fortunate that those standing next to him were not more seriously injured.

Competitor Carl Roberts and the other three spectators were released from hospital later that evening.

Mr Green – who has a wife, Hayley, 41, and two sons, Stephen, 22, and Kevin, 19 – was off work for seven months after the accident.

'We were given no indication of the dangers of standing where we did, next to the road,' he said.

'But the race organisers refuse to recognise our case because the Isle of Man is run on a different set of laws to the UK. I've lost Ł8,000 to Ł9,000 minimum in lost earnings. We are not asking for the earth, just the money that we have lost.'

Phil Edge, press officer for the Southern 100 which ran the Steam Packet race on the Billown Circuit last year, said he was unable to comment as the matter was in the hands of the lawyers and the insurance company.

Tourism and Leisure Minister Adrian Earnshaw said: 'Since the incident in 2007 we have listened to the comments made by the chief coroner in his report and a lot of hard work has gone into implementing the recommended changes, particularly with regard to spectating at the TT.'

Taken from: www.iomtoday.co.im
 
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Re:Southern 100 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
This meeting relates SOLELY to the 2009 Billown TT.
 
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Re:Southern 100 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
'We were given no indication of the dangers of standing where we did, next to the road,' Andy Green said.


You what?? The programme has a disclaimer saying that "motorsport is dangerous, persons attending this meeting do so entirely at their own risk" etc etc. Even 'Roon the Toon' had this disclaimer in their programme and it is 'only' a parade of aul bikes! With respect, perhaps Mr. Green should stick to MotoGP where you need binoculars to see who is in the lead.

Road racing is a very dangerous sport, for riders and spectators. The hard work of the organisers make it as safe as reasonably possible and reduce the chance of injury to as close to minimum as possible, but accidents are accidents and if you attend any motorsport it carries a level of risk. Hell, that's part of the attraction if we are being honest!
 
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Re:Southern 100 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
PhilCBR wrote:
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'We were given no indication of the dangers of standing where we did, next to the road,' Andy Green said. :blink:


You what?? The programme has a disclaimer saying that "motorsport is dangerous, persons attending this meeting do so entirely at their own risk" etc etc. Even 'Roon the Toon' had this disclaimer in their programme and it is 'only' a parade of aul bikes! With respect, perhaps Mr. Green should stick to MotoGP where you need binoculars to see who is in the lead.

Road racing is a very dangerous sport, for riders and spectators. The hard work of the organisers make it as safe as reasonably possible and reduce the chance of injury to as close to minimum as possible, but accidents are accidents and if you attend any motorsport it carries a level of risk. Hell, that's part of the attraction if we are being honest!


Fair Play PhilCBR tell it like it is, all Road Racing events i've attended and even Track racing have this disclaimer. "No indications of danger" would you jump off a bridge and blame the roads authority for not putting up a sign not to or providing a marshall etc..
 
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Re:Southern 100 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Southern ‘100’ Racing, organisers of the three road race meetings held on the Billown Course in the south of the Isle of Man each year are pleased to confirm the dates of the events for 2009.

As in past years the ‘south side course’ has the honour ofopening and closing the annual TT Festival, with two of the three road race meetings taking place either side of the races on theTT Course.

The Blackford Financial Services Pre-TT Classic Road Races gets the action underway on Friday 29th May with the first of two practice sessions. Saturday 30th May concludes the practice, before racing commences on Monday 1st June 2009.

The Steam Packet Billown TT Races take place on Saturday13th June.Finally, the premier event of the year on the 4.25-mile Billown Course, the Steam Packet International Southern ‘100’ Road Races take place on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday 13th, 14th, 15th & 16th July 2009. Full details of each of the road races will be issued in due course.

Southern 100 Racing look forward to welcoming back past competitors, as well as making newcomers’ to the meetings most welcome, and thank all involved with the meetings during 2008 for their continued support, which is very much appreciated.
 
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Re:Southern 100 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
I think wee 2 stroke Joe's post race parties at Skerries/Killalane should also carry a disclaimer!!
 
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Re:Southern 100 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
not sure about the disclaimer noddy but at least a health warning he he
WARNING YOU ATTEND MY PARTYS AT YOUR OWN HEALTH RISK.
it can start one day and still be going 3 days later he he
 
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Re:Southern 100 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
When i was at the Kells Road Races i suffered an attack of gout shall i sue the brewery?
 
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Re:Southern 100 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
How long will it be before the insurance compainies make everyone sign a disclaimer before being admitted to the race area.
I sympathise with anyone who is injured and/or loses income because of an accident but we all know motor events are dangerous,although some people still risk standing or sitting in areas that deemed unsafe. If our employers told us to stand in front of something that might hit us at 200mph we would tell them where to go, so why do some people still take the risk. People have complained about the prohibited areas at the TT, maybe they would not put a claim in if they were injured standing there, but this case proves that others may and that will eventually ruin it for all of us.
I read elsewhere that the usual disclaimer was not in the program for the said meeting, whether that is true or not I do not know. Someone can confirm this.
 
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